MClimate LoRaWAN Devices
  • Overview
  • FAQ
  • Firmware Upgrade Over The Air (FUOTA)
  • Devices
    • 🆕МClimate 16A Dry Switch (16ADS)
      • 🥳Release notes
      • 🛠️How to use
      • ⬆️MClimate 16ADS Uplink decoder
      • ⬇️MClimate 16ADS Downlink encoder
      • 📖MClimate 16ADS Device communication protocol
        • Communication concepts
        • Commands cheat sheet
        • Uplink types
        • Keep-alive
        • Overheating protection
        • Relay state 16ADS
        • LED indication mode
        • Network-related settings
        • Get Firmware & Hardware version
        • Restart device
    • 🆕МClimate 16A Switch & Power Meter LoRaWAN (16ASPM)
      • 🥳Release notes
      • 🛠️How to use
      • ⬆️MClimate 16ASPM Uplink decoder
      • ⬇️MClimate 16ASPM Downlink encoder
      • 📖MClimate 16ASPM Device communication protocol
        • Communication concepts
        • Commands cheat sheet
        • Uplink types
        • Keep-alive
        • Protections
        • Relay state 16ASPM
        • Clear accumulated energy
        • LED indication mode
        • Network-related settings
        • Get Firmware & Hardware version
        • Restart device
    • 😲MClimate Fan Coil Thermostat (FCT)
      • 🥳Release notes
      • ⭐Getting started
      • ⚡Wiring Diagrams (Applications) & Operational Modes
      • ⬆️MClimate Fan Coil Thermostat Uplink decoder
      • ⬇️MClimate Fan Coil Thermostat Downlink encoder
      • 📖MClimate Fan Coil Thermostat Device communication protocol
        • Communication concepts
        • Commands cheat sheet
        • Keep-alive
        • ON/OFF & Target temperature
          • Valve(s) operation
          • Target temperature ranges
        • Fan Settings
          • Auto Fan - Δ settings
        • 🔓Keys lock
        • External temperature measurement
        • Power module communication status
        • Function of digital input/output (IO1 and IO2 ports)
          • Automatic changeover
          • Occupancy sensor
        • General, Display & Power recovery
          • Hiding data from the display & settings
          • Frost Protection
          • Temperature sensor errors
          • Network-related settings
            • Uplink types
          • User interface language
        • Restart device
    • ♨️MClimate Vicki LoRaWAN
      • 🥳Release notes
      • ⬆️Vicki Uplink Decoder
      • ⬇️Vicki Downlink Encoder
      • 📖Vicki LoRaWAN Device communication protocol
        • Communication concepts
        • Commands cheat sheet
        • Uplink types
        • Keep-alive
        • Manual target temperature change
        • Operational modes & temperature control algorithms
          • Algorithm 1 - Equal directional control
          • Algorithm 2 - Proportional control
          • Algorithm 3 - Proportional Integral
        • External temperature measurement and internal temperature offset
        • Control target temperature and/or motor position and range
        • Recalibrate motor command explanation
        • Read device hardware and software version command explanation.
        • Anti-freeze functionality
        • Open window detection
        • Child lock
        • Target temperature ranges
        • Temperature units
        • Force-close & Force-attach
        • Network-related settings
        • Appendix (examples)
      • 📺Technical Deepdive Webinar
    • 🆕MClimate CO2 Display lite
      • 🥳Release notes
      • ⬆️MClimate CO2 Display lite Uplink decoder
      • 📖CO2 Display lite Device communication protocol
        • Communication concepts
        • Commands cheat sheet
        • Uplink types
        • Keep-alive
        • CO2 measurement settings
        • Hiding data from the display
        • Child lock
        • Network-related settings & Others
        • Get Firmware & Hardware version
        • Restart device
    • MClimate CO2 Display
      • 🥳Release notes
      • ⬆️MClimate CO2 Display Uplink decoder
      • 📖CO2 Display Device communication protocol
        • Communication concepts
        • Commands cheat sheet
        • Uplink types
        • Keep-alive
        • CO2 measurement settings
        • Hiding data from the display
        • Child lock
        • PIR (Motion sensor)
        • Network-related settings & Others
        • Get Firmware & Hardware version
    • MClimate Wireless Thermostat
      • 🥳Release notes
      • ⬆️MClimate Wireless Thermostat Uplink decoder
      • ⬇️MClimate Wireless Thermostat Uplink encoder
      • 📖Wireless Thermostat Device communication protocol
        • Communication concepts
        • Commands cheat sheet
        • Uplink types
        • Keep-alive
        • Target Temperature & Temperature range
        • Sensor mode & hiding data from the display
        • Heating status flag
        • Child lock
        • PIR (Motion sensor)
        • Get Firmware & Hardware version
        • Network-related settings & Others
    • MClimate HT Sensor LoRaWAN
      • 🥳Release notes
      • ⬆️HT Sensor Uplink Decoder
      • 📖HT Sensor LoRaWAN Device communication protocol
        • Communication concepts
        • Commands cheat sheet
        • Temperature and humidity compensation
        • Keep-alive
        • Read device hardware and software version command explanation.
        • Network-related settings
        • Uplink types
        • Appendix (examples)
    • MClimate CO2 Sensor and Notifier LoRaWAN
      • 🥳Release notes
      • ⬆️CO2 Sensor Uplink Decoder
      • 📖CO2 Sensor LoRaWAN Device communication protocol
        • Communication concepts
        • Commands cheat sheet
        • Keep-alive
        • Read device hardware and software version command explanation.
        • Network-related settings
        • Uplink types
        • CO2 boundary levels
        • CO2 auto-zero value
        • CO2 auto-zero period
        • CO2 Measurement period
        • Notifications configuration
    • MClimate Open/Close Sensor LoRaWAN
      • 🥳Release notes
      • ⬆️Open/Close Sensor uplink decoder
      • 📖Open/Close sensor LoRaWAN communication protocol
        • Commands cheat sheet
        • Keep-alive
        • Read device hardware and software version command explanation
        • Uplink types
        • Network-related settings
        • Event notification
        • Notification Blind Time
        • LED control command explanation
        • Restart device
    • MClimate Multipurpose Button LoRaWAN
      • 🥳Release notes
      • ⬆️Multipurpose Button Uplink decoder
      • 📖MClimate Button LoRaWAN Device communication protocol
        • Commands cheat sheet
        • Keep-alive
        • LEDs, button press types and behaviour
        • Read device hardware and software version command explanation
        • Network-related settings
        • Uplink types
        • Button press event counters
        • LED control command explanation
        • Restart device
    • MClimate T-Valve LoRaWAN
      • 🥳Release notes
      • ⬆️T-Valve Uplink Decoder
      • T-Valve LoRaWAN communication protocol
        • Commands cheat sheet
        • Uplink types
        • Keep-alive
        • Valve state control
        • Set LED behavior
        • Buzzer control
        • Emergency openings
        • Enable/disable manual valve open/close
        • Flood alarm time
        • Keep-alive period
        • Request Long data packet
        • Device allowed working voltage
        • Enable/Disable device flood sensor
        • Network related settings
        • Deactivate device (non-operational mode, save power)
    • MClimate Flood Sensor LoRaWAN
      • 🥳Release notes
      • ⬆️Flood Sensor Uplink Decoder
      • 📖Flood Sensor LoRaWAN communication protocol
        • Commands cheat sheet
        • Keep-alive
        • Flood event - Available configurations
        • Uplink types
        • Network-related settings
        • Read Firmware & Hardware version
        • Custom control of LED and Acoustic Buzzer
        • Read device parameters command
        • Restart device
    • MClimate AQI Sensor and Notifier LoRaWAN
      • 🥳Release notes
      • AQI Sensor Uplink Decoder
      • AQI Sensor Downlink encoder
      • AQI Sensor LoRaWAN Device communication protocol
        • Communication concepts
        • Commands cheat sheet
        • Keep-alive
        • Read device hardware and software version command explanation.
        • Network-related settings
        • Uplink types
        • Device buzzer control command
        • Device LED’s control
        • Appendix (examples)
  • Others
    • Application of MClimate Vicki to One-pipe steam heating systems
    • Battery Lifetime Estimation Methodology
    • Discover Smart Buildings solutions
    • How to solve Large space heating issues
    • Device Firmware upgrade via a Field Programming Kit (FPK)
      • Vicki Firmware Upgrade
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    • Chirpstack
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    • MachineQ
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    • Firefly
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  • Prerequisites
  • Installation
  • How to handle enclosed radiators?
  • General Resources on using TRVs and Radiator Thermostats in steam heating systems

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Application of MClimate Vicki to One-pipe steam heating systems

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Introduction

The MClimate Vicki - LoRaWAN Radiator Thermostat can be used in one-pipe steam heating systems.

Installing Thermostatic Radiator Valves (TRVs) and Radiator Thermostats in one-pipe heating systems has been done for many years and leaders in the industry like Danfoss have specialized products for the purpose.

Installing TRVs and Radiator thermostats in such systems can lead to substantial savings and improvement of tenants' comfort, as one of frequent complaints from tenants in such buildings is overheating of certain rooms.

If you install TRVs and MClimate Vicki - LoRaWAN Radiator Thermostats, you’d gain monitoring and control capabilities over the systems, potentially centralizing control, schedules and others.

Prerequisites

  • TRV is a Thermostatic Radiator Valve. It’s not the thermostat itself, but rather the mechanical part, which regulates the flow to the radiator.

  • Radiator Thermostat is a device that is installed on the TRV. It senses the indoor temperature and the tenant can adjust the target temperature in the room, which in turn controls the TRV and the flow through the radiator.

  • Online, TRV and Radiator Thermostat are often used as interchangeable terms, while they are not. For the sake of being technically correct, we do not use those two terms interchangeably.

The vast majority of buildings in the US using steam heating systems are not prepared for installation of a radiator thermostat. One needs to first fit the radiator with an appropriate TRV and then install the Vicki radiator thermostat.

  • Danfoss has an offering for TRVs on one-pipe steam heating systems: Danfoss RA2000 1PS.

  • Once the TRV is installed, one can install Vicki on the TRV, similar to any other radiator thermostat, with the exception that this being a smart device it requires a brief period to calibrate after powering on. Please refer to the official Vicki Manual for details on installation.

Given that retrofitting projects would also include installing TRVs and thermostats on every radiator, it is of paramount importance to make sure that the contractor that installs the TRVs has completed the job well. Otherwise, if there’s an issue with the TRV (e.g. vent, etc.), most probably the customer will blame the Radiator Thermostats, while it is not their fault.

Installation

While a lot can be said about the installation of Vicki, in this document, we’ll limit the information to the context of steam heating systems. For more detailed information about installation of Vicki in general, please refer to the product’s user manual and other documents available on our website https://mclimate.eu

  • In this context, Vicki is installed as any other radiator thermostat on a TRV. If you choose to use Danfoss’ solution for one-pipe steam heating systems, you will require an adapter that converts the thread from Danfoss RA to M30x1.5. Given the fact that steam heating systems operate on higher temperatures compared to hydronic heating systems, we recommend usage only of metal RA adapters, available on our website.

  • If possible, install the TRV and Vicki on the side of the radiator, not directly above. While that’s not always possible, it is highly recommended as the device would be able to operate better on lower temperatures.

  • We’ve verified that Vicki operates well in temperatures up to 190 degrees Fahrenheit, but the batteries that the device uses (Energizer Lithium Ultimate AA) are with operating temperatures of up to 140F. We’ve found a study by NASA, which shows testing results of the same batteries at higher temperatures that are promising, but nevertheless, we highly recommend avoiding installation of the TRV right on top of the radiator.

How to handle enclosed radiators?

In some buildings, radiators can be enclosed with a metal/wooden cover that hides them from one’s view. While this is a great interior design choice, it means that the temperature sensor of the radiator thermostat wouldn’t be able to sense the room temperature correctly.

In such cases, it is mandatory to use a separate temperature sensor (e.g. MClimate HT or MClimate WT or any other) that can read the temperature of the room correctly. The information from the external temperature sensor would then be communicated to Vicki using LoRaWAN, Vicki would know what’s the real indoor temperature and will control the flow through the radiator accordingly.

In such cases, we always recommend using the MClimate Wireless Thermostat, as it can sense the indoor temperature accurately, but it also allows tenants to set the target temperature of the device(s) that it is connected to.

The connection between MClimate Wireless Thermostat and MClimate Vicki is done on the application-side. The two devices do not communicate with each other directly, but information is routed to one-another in the application server (e.g. MClimate Enterprise).

Utilizing MClimate Enterprise

  • Set Vicki to work in ext. temp sensor mode and associate which device’s temperature should it use. You can do this in the Control-Advanced section.

  • Set the Wireless Thermostat to act as a thermostat to one or more Vicki devices, meaning all changes of the target temperature on the WT will be sent to all associated Vicki devices. Also configured from the Control-Advanced section, as was with Vicki.

Utilizing a 3rd Party Application

  • Allow customers to select which temperature sensor should Vicki use AND

  • Set Vicki to operational mode “Automatic with external temperature reading” (same as with Enterprise) AND

  • Forward the information of the external temperature sensor to Vicki using appropriate downlink commands.

  • If you are using the MClimate Wireless Thermostat, it’s advisable to also forward the target temperature to Vicki(s) using the appropriate downlink command.

General Resources on using TRVs and Radiator Thermostats in steam heating systems

  • One-Pipe Steam Systems - Piping and troubleshooting: https://www.peerlessboilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/OnePipeSteam.pdf

  • Installing Thermostatic Radiator Valves:

    https://www.steamheat.tech/try-trvs/try-trvs.html

  • Thermostatic Single Pipe Steam Radiator Vent (TRV): A Solution Looking For A Problem?

  • Two-Pipe steam optimization: Two-Pipe Steam Optimization Simple measures for two- pipe steam systems that enhance efficiency and comfort.

  • Danfoss Forums on One-Pipe systems Danfoss Valves on Single Pipe Steam Systems

  • Dan Foss Thermostatic Radiator Valve Video Dan Foss Thermostatic Radiator Valve

  • Danfoss Single Pipe Steam Valve Video Danfoss Single Pipe Steam Valve

Danfoss RA2000 TRVs
Mounting Vicki on the TRV
Side installation of Vicki
External Temperature Sensor settings
Wireless Thermostat Vicki control settings